Wednesday, February 11, 2009

San Juan 24 Donated to Science

The following is not for the squeamish - if you are easily nauseated and sickened by wanton destruction look no further..........

The purpose of this post is mainly for the San Juan Users Group as I've owned and rehabed a couple San Juan 24's - up til this one - and as they are a great sailing vessel but aging. Many conjectures are forwarded as to whats underneath the gelcoat.

It is raining outside so I don't have the hull pictures to show. These are mostly cross section shots - sometimes fuzzy - to get and idea of the San Juan 24's internal construction.

Also here is the e-mail post to the group explaining - keep in mine that I am not an engineer and these are only my opions as a back yard boat fixerupper guy:

Yesterday I began sectioning the heavily delaminated 1972?4? SJ24 hull for disposal via sawz-all. Took about 4 hours for the deck -
being careful to cut around good used parts. I will take picture of
some cross section and post them on my blog page for those interested
in a more detailed view of the San Juan 24's internals.

Tearing away with the sawz-all did give me some opinions on the deck
construction. Keep in mind that this boat was riddled with deck
component add-ons that were not bedded or re-bedded in the recent
decade (or two); drilled holes through any core were not resin filled
and redrilled; virtually no backing plates were used except tiny
washers; the boat was laid up in a mid-atlantic state where it does
freeze at times in the winter:

1. The side decks are cored with a good grade of plywood - probably
marine grade as it was still solid, stable and harder to cut through
even while noticably wet. About 1/4 inch from the forward cabin to the
rear cabin bulkhead brace.

2. The main winch platform was 1/2 inch plywood and was found to be
dry and solid and hard to cut through.

3. The transom is un-cored thick and harder to cut through than the hull

4. The hull/deck joint is an over and under lap joint were about one
inch of the deck lip rests on top of an inward facing hull lip of
about an inch. They were glued and thru-bolted from the teak toe rail.
No apparent leaking could be seen at those few places where I cut
across it.

5. The transition from cored deck to deck joint has the two halves of
the laminate meeting about 1/2 inch before the step-up ridge to the
lip. I think this is the boat weakest area - everything on the deck is
hanging across this thin - about 1/8" + laminate. I believe a layer or
two of fiberglass mat and cloth along this thin area would firm up the
whole boat, but you would have to remove the toe rail and stantions -
not a pleasant job! And grind back the gelcoat to resin them in.

6. Almost every balsa cored area in the cabin top was wet and much of
it rotted, black and sometimes non-existent. Black rot-ooze could be
seen leaking out from the inside of the cabin at fastener holes. The
mast step area was crushed, but the mast compression post and lower
fiberglass base were intact. I bet the PO just kept tightening and
tightening the stays!

7. Even though the cabin top fiberglass laminate was some of the
thickest on the boat the sawz-all cut right through it - much easier
than the side deck.

8. Sectioned cored pieces were surprisingly heavy!

9. The entire deck was stress cracked. My best guess is once the
cabin core lost its bond with the inner and outer laminates it no
longer could support mast loads and tried to push the entire deck
downward. The bulkheads prevent most of this, but as the boat is
worked in a sea I imagine a rolling ripple effect working that thinner
hull/deck joint. Plus the winter freeze/thaw did the rest.

10. The main bulkheads were wet and slightly mushroomed at the top,
and looked ok until I took the cabin top off, then you could see the
laminates of the bulkhead spreading and becoming rotten. The port
bulkhead was also showing signs of wet separation at its base. So
their main job of support were also negated.

11. The chain plates have no elongated holes and look good and the
chain plate bolts are solidly in place. But as I worked a piece of
deck up a down over the chain plate slot my belief in the trampolining
deck started to take shape.

12. Overall I believe the SJ24 was built very well to good standards
that one would expect of its class and design. The deterioration of
this boat no way reflects this as no standard was held in attaching
deck hardware - anywhere. No boat of any design would hold up over 30
plus years of constant water intrusion and freeze thaw cycles.

I now have a new respect for resin filling of thru-deck holes and
using larger backing plates. BUT I will continue using balsa for
coring with this in mine as I've come to find out through a noted
marine surveyor that no foam coring material as yet will match it in
being able to withstand higher levels of heat and compression. That if
you properly bed and seal your hardware balsa will last indefinitely

















Vanguard Boat Shed



The new boat shed is doing its job well! Its not a kit, but an improvement on the previous 1 1/4 inch pipe and tarp cover .

Of course I will have to unscrew and disassemble the front to get Marigold out, but small price to pay for snug and dry.







The pitch is sufficient to let most snow fall off the horizontal corrugation, but I still have to use the snow rake when its over two feet or heavy.

Tuesday, January 6, 2009

Lifting Cradle for Marigold

A few years ago I needed to get "Marigold" our 1964 Pearson Vanguard off its home built trailer. I devised a lifting cradle and working till dusk, got her safely to ground.






Saturday, April 26, 2008

We are the Borghuahua

After hearing about the couple who had 800 chihuahuas in there Arizona home, Laurie and I speculated on the how and whys of it. As total Sci-fi geeks we naturally went to the bizarre. Here's my interpretation:

Project of Best Intention


I delivered an oversize Four Winns cruiser to Essex, Maryland, late last year and was able to bring this San Juan24 back with me as my company was "dead-heading" me home.

I purchased it on e-bay actual sight unseen, but with several pictures the owner had posted and a previous SJ24 restoration behind me, I thought I knew the boat, what it need, and the weak points needing attention. The price was extremely right.


At first glace it didn't look too bad.



I got back home late and unloaded it onto my triple

axle trailer I built for Our 1964 Pearson Vanguard.

The Vanguard has been on a cradle for a few years and the trailer has not been used till now. I almost sold it a while back, but decided against it. Good thing as the SJ24 looked at home on it. I was wondering at the seemingly perfect fit of the Vanguard when I first brought her home from Ontario.

I bought this SJ24 so we could have a trailer sailer as the Vanguard project seemed still years away from completion, and Laurie and I were hungry for the water.

My first SJ24 project is happily sailing down in Lake Monroe, Indiana. Where to my suprise I found several over 40 foot ocean capable sailing vessels in winter storage. Tack - come about - run off-come about- repeat?

I should have keep that boat, but we were building the war chest to pursue a boat rehab buisness, but that's another story.

Once home and under closer inspection the delamination of the deck was most obvious. The hull itself was delaminating and the whole thing was flexing and pushing in. Nothing short of complete deck removal and much much labor was going to put this boat into what I considered sea worthy shape. I could doctor it up, but whose life was I willing to risk?

I've taken a half dozen ugly ducklings and made swans of them and felt pretty cocky about what I could accomplish with resin, glass and paint. This boat is my reality check - not the boat appaiser I thought I was. Faced with the reality - I convinced Laurie that we were not heading to the sea in this boat and savage was the better part of humiliation.

All in all it was a break even deal. The tally?: Wasted time; Vanguard still not finished; Lost lbs' loading and unloading; discovered new combinations for all the words The Navy had taught me while removing the 1600lb lead keel; had the joy of seeing my wife's hands to mouth reaction as the soggy SJ24 partially stripped, keel-less and chained to a tree, hung in mid air, released from its earthly bonds, as I engaged the S-10 Jimmy's 4 wheel drive and jammed the pedal.

We have a few acres here and could use a pond..........




Friday, April 25, 2008

36 Foot Winsor Craft






First I want to show the beautiful wood work on a 36 foot Winsor Craft I hauled from the Boston Boat show to Ft Lauderdale.





Genmar Transportation employes me to move any and all boats the parent company, Genmar Marine, builds and sells. We haul our own boats and also contract to move any other commodity that will fit on our trailers. I've loaded boats, trailers, arch towers, engines, and even lumber from the Pacific Northwest.

I had recently delivered a 35 foot Larson Cabrio to a dealer in Laval, Quebec for the Montreal Boat show and was dispatched to pick up the Winsor Craft. I seldom see the boats uncovered so it was a treat to see the fine varnish wood detail of this beauty. This was the first Winsor Craft I moved. Genmar Imports them from Turkey and has dealer support throughout North America.

While strapping down after the crane crew expertly positioned it, several of the Boston Convention Center crew told me that the two Winsor Crafts on display were the most popular attractions. I've never had so many drivers slow down while in transit and look at a boat before. The pictures don't do it justice
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To Blog or not to Blog

I used to have a web page running with boat projects, but found the format too time consuming to update with my busy schedule. My wife Laurie, has a blog page to inform her friends and family and to journal my kidnapping her to the apparent wilderness of Michigan (Bear tore down three bird feeders last week.)

I'm planning to post picture of boats I've hauled for myself and my employer, and some project updates on my renovation of a 1964 Pearson Vanguard sail boat; Which seems to be somewhat slower than the earth turning coal into diamonds.